tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post363606378296870303..comments2022-12-10T10:15:01.191+01:00Comments on jrgmyr: Follow up: DIAGEOS World Class - Moscow today and how bartenders were selected 2009 and 2010 in GermanyJoerg Meyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10390919850839276785noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post-61701388361574185402011-01-24T18:16:10.850+01:002011-01-24T18:16:10.850+01:00Hello im the guerrilla bartender and I would have ...Hello im the guerrilla bartender and I would have to be more on Mr Daniel side of this argument. I think Daniel could have made a better case than just outline the huge EGO's that seem to have been caught up in this so called scandle. I do understand the feeling of fustration that the Russian bartenders are feeling. Being left out of anything that could be a huge benefit to your bartending career can seem like a huge blow. But as stated by Spike and Louise this competition has only just started and kinks will be ironed out over time and that's what this competition needs is time. It just sounds like the Russian Diageo office is out of touch with their bartenders... No offense is ment when I say oh my god this really isn't a big deal and I can't beleive this has been blown way out of proportion.<br />Kindest regards<br />GBguerrillabartendinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18218156177642181576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post-36564050670833908222011-01-24T15:05:56.291+01:002011-01-24T15:05:56.291+01:00Hello!! Jorg!
We are not boycotting Diageo brands ...Hello!! Jorg!<br />We are not boycotting Diageo brands now, but we wanr to do this, if Russian managment dont change principles of organizing comptetiton in Russia!!!<br />as Louise wrote, its no problem to invite bartenders from different kinds of bars or give such Wild cards<br />Nobody cant gives us an answer....<br /><br />Dima SokolovAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post-43779981094511573572011-01-24T14:50:00.852+01:002011-01-24T14:50:00.852+01:00Here is your Comment Back Helmut- Don't know w...Here is your Comment Back Helmut- Don't know what happen, but I always get a email copy:<br /><br />HELMUT ADAM WROTE<br /><br /><br />Jörg, the information about World Class in Germany for 2009 is correct. However, you're mistaken about 2010. <br /><br />There was a competition open to ALL bartenders in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. To my knowledge participation had nothing to do with their bars listing Diageo Reserve Brand products. Everybody could enter. They just had to use certain <br /><br />The recipes sent in were then judged by Angus Winchester and a couple of other Diageo brand workers and 3 finalists were selected per country for the regional final (Northern Europe) in Rotterdam:<br /><br />http://www.mixology.eu/de/blog/diageo-laedt-zu-world-class-ein<br /><br />(All internationl readers: please run it through Google translate etc.)<br /><br />Mixology magazine acted as a media partner for Diageo World Class in 2010. And I was part of the jury in Rotterdam last year. In the regional final that took place in the Ketel One distillery the best finalist of each country qualified for the gobal finals in Athens. <br /><br />I don't have any information for the year 2011. Since they took on a brand ambassador for Reserve Brands and started rolling out a training program, they might go back to a selective competition. As said, no information to date. <br /><br />My apologies for not contributing earlier to this matter, but as you said, Jörg, it's a time consuming task. <br /><br />Now, if we talk about "politics", I'm known for using your qote above quite often. But: trade and brands are always politics. It's also politics to refuse to take part in branded trips to destilleries and to refuse taking listing fees.<br /><br />A trade magazine is in the middle of all this. We live off the advertising of the big spirits companies and have to find a balance with journalistic approach and making the advertisers happy. We serve our readers behind the bar counter AND the industry. Two groups of readers. And definitely in this order. <br /><br />As for the Diageo World Class Russia issue: we've already decided to cover this and have talked to a couple of people. We'll publish our view on this matter later this week. <br /><br /><br />Note: You had all the right to give this controversy a platform, no matter what other "branded" players in the industry say. It's the first big story in 2010. Transparency is a value these times.Joerg Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654286382947210349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post-41734157907915331792011-01-24T14:45:50.546+01:002011-01-24T14:45:50.546+01:00Blogger gives me the creeps. Just wrote a comment ...Blogger gives me the creeps. Just wrote a comment that doesn't show up here. And then posted the Addendum. And it was there before, I saw it. <br /><br />(It's a sad fact that Google did nothing to improve this service after acquiring it.)Helmut Adamhttp://www.mixology.eunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post-91891525545401662802011-01-24T14:41:02.826+01:002011-01-24T14:41:02.826+01:00Addendum:
There's a sentence missing above. ...Addendum: <br /><br />There's a sentence missing above. <br /><br />"They had to use certain ingredients. One cocktail had to be Ketel One based, the other Tanqueray Ten based."<br /><br />More information (German):<br /><br />http://www.mixology.eu/de/forum/wettbewerbe/diageo-world-class-2010Helmut Adamhttp://www.mixology.eunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7282158893452714854.post-23533115745588820722011-01-24T14:35:00.660+01:002011-01-24T14:35:00.660+01:00Jörg, the information about World Class in Germany...Jörg, the information about World Class in Germany for 2009 is correct. However, you're mistaken about 2010. <br /><br />There was a competition open to ALL bartenders in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. To my knowledge participation had nothing to do with their bars listing Diageo Reserve Brand products. Everybody could enter. They just had to use certain <br /><br />The recipes sent in were then judged by Angus Winchester and a couple of other Diageo brand workers and 3 finalists were selected per country for the regional final (Northern Europe) in Rotterdam:<br /><br />http://www.mixology.eu/de/blog/diageo-laedt-zu-world-class-ein<br /><br />(All internationl readers: please run it through Google translate etc.)<br /><br />Mixology magazine acted as a media partner for Diageo World Class in 2010. And I was part of the jury in Rotterdam last year. In the regional final that took place in the Ketel One distillery the best finalist of each country qualified for the gobal finals in Athens. <br /><br />I don't have any information for the year 2011. Since they took on a brand ambassador for Reserve Brands and started rolling out a training program, they might go back to a selective competition. As said, no information to date. <br /><br />My apologies for not contributing earlier to this matter, but as you said, Jörg, it's a time consuming task. <br /><br />Now, if we talk about "politics", I'm known for using your qote above quite often. But: trade and brands are always politics. It's also politics to refuse to take part in branded trips to destilleries and to refuse taking listing fees.<br /><br />A trade magazine is in the middle of all this. We live off the advertising of the big spirits companies and have to find a balance with journalistic approach and making the advertisers happy. We serve our readers behind the bar counter AND the industry. Two groups of readers. And definitely in this order. <br /><br />As for the Diageo World Class Russia issue: we've already decided to cover this and have talked to a couple of people. We'll publish our view on this matter later this week. <br /><br /><br />Note: You had all the right to give this controversy a platform, no matter what other "branded" players in the industry say. It's the first big story in 2010. Transparency is a value these times.Helmut Adamhttp://www.mixology.eunoreply@blogger.com